Why Bin Laden Failed

topic posted Fri, September 11, 2009 - 12:57 PM by  offlineForrest
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The flaw in bin Laden's strategy of trying to capture the imagination of the Muslim masses through spectacular acts of terror was obvious even in the immediate wake of 9/11. In much of the Arab and Muslim world, there was a pervasive refusal to believe that Muslims had been responsible for the attacks, even after bin Laden claimed responsibility. The denial inherent in the tendency common from Egypt to Indonesia to blame the Mossad or the CIA for 9/11 reveal a damning negation of al-Qaeda's tactics — so repulsive was the mass murder of innocents to ordinary Muslims that most refused to celebrate the attacks, as bin Laden had hoped they might, but instead sought to blame them on those deemed enemies of Islam.

Even in countries where al-Qaeda had hoped to capitalize on resentment against American influence, its networks were largely rolled up by security services as the population looked on, indifferent. By invading Iraq, the Bush Administration arguably did a far more effective job than bin Laden had of weakening U.S. influence in the Muslim world and rallying its youth to resistance. Yet, even in Iraq, al-Qaeda's effort to gain control of the resistance failed because its ideology and tactics were so loathsome even to the bulk of the Sunni insurgents fighting the Americans that they eventually made common cause with the U.S. against the jihadists.

www.time.com/time/nation...1758,00.html

If you ever want to become an international pariah, go out and slaughter a lot of people . . . we hate the Nazis because they killed so many . . . same with Pol Pot and many others . . . the U.S. military tries hard to avoid civilian casualties, doesn't always succeed, but it tries . . . imagining you can become a hero by murdering thousands of innocent people has to be one of history's greatest delusions . . .
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Forrest
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  • Re: Why Bin Laden Failed

    Fri, September 11, 2009 - 6:52 PM
    Nor is it clear that they were smart to succeed. In Afghanistan, the 9/11 attacks provoked a furious response from the United States military that destroyed al-Qaida's infrastructure of terrorist training camps and cave dwellings; unseated al-Qaida's protectors, the Taliban; and captured or killed two-thirds of al-Qaida's leaders—most notably, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, 9/11's principal architect and now Guantanamo's best-known prisoner. According to Lawrence Wright, author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning The Looming Tower: Al-Qaida and the Road to 9/11, nearly 80 percent of al-Qaida's Afghanistan-based membership was killed in the U.S. invasion; intelligence estimates suggest al-Qaida's current membership may be as low as 200 or 300. At the very least, U.S. forces set back the al-Qaida hierarchy by several years. At most, the United States may have destroyed permanently al-Qaida's ability to operate as a centrally run enterprise, reducing its chairman, Osama Bin Laden, and its CEO, Ayman al-Zawahiri, to symbolic figureheads rather than hands-on leaders. Meanwhile, al-Qaida's goal of re-establishing the 1,000-year Islamic caliphate that sprawled across three continents until the early 20th century remains distant as ever.

    www.slate.com/id/2211994/pagenum/2
  • Why America Fails

    Sat, September 12, 2009 - 6:01 PM
    If you read it in "Time" or that paragon of journalistic integrity named "Slate" to disguise its roots in Microsoft/MSN and its ties to the Washington Post's apron strings, then it's got to be true, right?
    • Re: Why America Fails

      Sat, September 12, 2009 - 8:31 PM
      If you had read "Slate," you would know that they posted eight different and contradictory stories on the subject. As for which is true, you can take your own pick.
      • Re: Why American Press Fails

        Sun, September 13, 2009 - 6:13 AM
        I'll take #3 for $500, Forrest.
        • Re: Why American Press Fails

          Sun, September 13, 2009 - 3:13 PM
          That would be the "Melting Pot" theory:

          American Muslims are better-educated and wealthier than the average American. In Europe, they are poorer and less well-educated than the rest of the population—in Germany, only about 10 percent of the Turkish population attends college. The United States has assimilated Muslims into its society more successfully than Western Europe—and over a longer period. Arabs began migrating to the United States in great numbers during the second half of the 19th century. Western Europe's Arab migration didn't start until after World War II, when many arrived as guest workers. In Germany and France, a great many Muslims live in housing projects segregated from the rest of the population. In the United States, Muslims are dispersed more widely. An exception would be Detroit, which has a large Muslim community but not an impoverished one.

          www.slate.com/id/2211996

          Slightly off-point, but I can't say I disagree with it . . .

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